Better get real or migrate to the Gaza border and you will the feel what is “mass murder”
First, while cooking dinner for the family and getting a missile lobbed in the pan any day and for everyday is sure NOT target shooting that ends up.
Second any overwhelming reaction (detriment to the enemies of humanity) by good and peace aiming societies has NOTHING to do with mass murder or otherwise. If your thesis was adopted in the 40s you would not be around today to dispute it. This applies to those who concur with you. Too easy. Someone did the “dirty” job for their sake.

Want some hints of mass murder ?
: Japanese and their wicked perpetrations on other Asians and the Pacific
Stalin and recolonization of the USSR
Turkey and the Armenian so called dilemma
Not to mention Hitler and his achievements.
Mao and the 20 million Chinese “removed”. He could clinch the gold medal actually.
Pol Pot and re-de-populating of the territory
Sadam Hussein fixing the northern problem
General Franco and his personal Inquisition
I could mention more and more and most took even less than Kassam rockets years.
NONE has been a few seconds FIGHTBACK, for the good of humanity.

The good side must always prevail and by any means, otherwise why bother thinking of tomorrow or for that matter prepare the pan again to fix the next dinner.
Vermins must not prevail.
Unless….. one has a deal in Gaza.
Really Futile.
Even the devil would avoid a trip there.
No Fate.

My congratulations go to your frank and honest assessment of the situation.
Get this drift:
Some decades ago a (then) murderous army of Japs not only invaded its neighbours but lobbed rockets (zeros) in the US backyard of Pearl Harbour.
Guess what happened, Everything was fixed in about 200 seconds in both Nagasaki and Hiroshima with about a bit less than quarter million went grass.
in Gaza its still not the same and everybody is complaining.
Are they really serious ?

But look again. Look at who has been targeted by Israel’s fighters and how few actual civilians have been killed, in comparison to the total reported fatalities. Israel, as repeatedly stated by all involved from Prime Minister Olmert down, is not fighting the people of Gaza. Israel is targeting Hamas, a terror organization that achieved control in Gaza through a military putsch last year and has since suppressed and imprisoned all opposition. Hamas, since taking control of the Gaza strip, has targeted unarmed innocents in Sderot, Netivot and the surrounding farmlands with indiscriminate mortar and rocket fire.

I have been hoping and praying for peace ever since I came home to Israel more than a quarter of a century ago. When my son was born 22 years ago, I prayed that he would never need to serve in the army. I prayed that there would be no need for an army, that we would have peaceful relations with our neighbours, that we would live side by side, in harmony.

I no longer have these illusions, though it took many years for my clouded vision to clear. Now, I am willing to settle for security. I don’t want peace – I just want to live quietly, without fear. I care about other human beings on the other side of the border, but I care about them a lot less than I care about my own loved ones, my family, my country. I am no different in this than any other normal person in any country in the world.

I used to have no opinion whatsoever regarding the political leadership of the inhabitants of the Gaza strip, since all my concern for their welfare vanished when we dismantled our settlements and removed all Israeli presence from the strip three years ago. The strip has another border with Egypt, the country that governed the Gaza strip until 1967. Once we moved out, the inhabitants of the strip should then have negotiated for cheapest fuel, water and electricity from their neighbours, and sold their produce to the highest bidders. A perfect situation for the nascent Palestinian state – if this is what they wanted.

Now it is clear to the whole world. The Palestinians do not want their own state. They do not want to live in peace with their neighbours. They do not want welfare, healthcare, open trade, to develop and grow into happy and useful members of the international community. Instead, their best and brightest waste their ingenuity in the design, smuggling and launching of ballistic weaponry. Their elected officials suppress all internal opposition, ignore welfare and instead brainwash gullible armies to terrorize the civilians of the Jewish state.

What is there to discuss? We have to do this to restore security to our citizens. If the inhabitants of the Gaza Strip will not let the inhabitants of Sderot, Netivot and all of the towns, villages, farms and factories go to work and go to bed without fear of mortar rounds and rockets, how can they complain when we attack their stockpiles, their bunkers, their training grounds?

This is why the response of the world has been so muted, even though the Jewish state is not universally loved. There is simply nothing to discuss here, the situation and Israel’s response is clear as daylight. Anyone saying anything different is not thinking clearly.

I’m glad Israel is not doing that, though. I hope and pray that Israel continues this attack until Hamas formally surrenders, admits that Israel has the right to exist, and agrees to never attack Israel again.

I’m hoping and praying for a pipe-dream, aren’t I :).

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I’m Israeli, not right-winged nor left-winged. I’m speaking for myself and for what, to my best understanding, my Israeli government is trying to achieve.

Knossos, and all the rest – It looks like the rest of the world looks to both sides as ones who only seek to blame the other for the current situation, which has been going far too long to remember.

I believe this is untrue.

The main deal in Israel nowadays is not to blame this or that, but to find a common, acceptable solution for both sides. In order to find a solution for this common problem you need to sit down and discuss the problem with the other side.

Unfortunately, this again deteriorates to blaming – The current situation is that the other side (Hamas) refuses to sit with you. Not just that, it also refuse to recognize you as an existing, real being. This is the source for the current problem.

On the other side, in the western bank, negotiation has been going along slowly and carefully with the Fatah government. I’m not saying that it’s going well or that some sort of agreement will be reached anytime soon – But at least there are talks and meetings going on. A portion of Fatah prisoners are released every couple of months from Israeli prisons. The Fatah are starting to arrest law-breakers and Hamas militants in order to achieve order. Both sides are still cautious towards each other due to distrust, but it starting to go somewhere. Yes, there are voices here in Israel saying that the Fatah will use this only to gain strength and some day strike back. West bank Palestinians think that we are not giving enough. But it is going somewhere.

Knossos, I’m sorry – but I have to clarify what you said and explain it in more detail.
It might not sound acceptable to you, but the people in Shderot and in the nearby bombarded areas continue to live there not because they value their wives and children lives less than you. Definitely not. They are there because either they don’t have the economical means to relocate (some more able have relocated, by the way), and mainly because it will encourage Hamas to continue its abuse on Israeli civilian population. This will only encourage more violence from the other side. This is the main restrain for Israel to give up land.

I know it might seem illogical. But yes, this is the current situation. Me, us, Israel doesn’t have a partner to talk to on the other side. Hamas and other extreme Islamic organizations see diplomatic attempts as a weakness, which only encourages them to use more violence. Unaccepting Israel is explicitly written on their ideologic platforms, by the way.

Now, I refuse to stop here, because I have only blamed the other side. I will tell you what I think should be done, as best as I can. I also believe that this is what my government is trying to achieve.

The solution should begin with removing the current control of the extremist organization in Gaza. Currently this is Hamas. The problem is, there is currently no other capable organization to fill the new vacuum. Fatah doesn’t enjoy support in Gaza, because they are considered corrupt and not sometimes not religious enough. The rest of the groups in Gaza are even more extremist that Hamas are. So, what I said above won’t solve the problem.

From here, there are two choices.

One, Israeli re-occupation of Gaza, installing a military control over the area. This is absolutely unacceptable and will lead to nowhere. All Israelis know that. We have no need to hold this land, except in order to defend ourselves and maintain a cease-fire with the current Gaza regime.

The other, more reasonable solution is make the Gazan-Palestinian population to understand that they need a moderate, less-religious regime to lead them to a good solution, and most importantly – **Accept Israel as real being**.

This process is very long and will take a very long time to achieve. How will this be achieved? This is the main problem, which I don’t have a very good answer to.

Palestinian education on the subject of Jews and Israel is mainly based on hatred towards Israel. This has to be changed. I believe this can only be done with international intervention, since the Palestinians won’t really listen to Israelis on this subject. This is not the situation in Israeli schools, by the way.

Second, I think some sort of international force should maintain law, order, and peace in Gaza. Currently no country agrees to take a step forward. I’m sorry – but that’s a problem beyond my strength to solve.

The only thing I have left to say is that it will take a very long time for both sides to become more moderate towards each other.

That is all I have to say for now.

It is 1:26 AM now, need to go to sleep for another day of fighting.

Good night.

You aren’t suggesting that Israeli men living in southern Israel don’t care about their wives and children as much as you do, are you?

Again, thanks to you and everyone else for keeping the discussion civil.

We all know that it’s time for a change in politics and the way we look at this conflict. Now I’m just suggesting everyone to say how they think the problem could be solved in the long term. And keep the extreme things for yourselves, no one wants to hear about that.

and 1 more thing: yo sayed “Palestinian who drink a tea doesnt deserve to die” you are right 100%, no one deserves death…but…
people who live on israeli side for 9 years taking missiles deserve to die?
while Israel Army do nothing because the Government want to talk?
i dont think so…i realy don’t think that someone that even dont want to agree for your existance can realy talk…

both sides are responsible for escalating attacks, funny thing is that israel and palestine along with the other arab countries and western countries started playing the blame game, who started it first, is to, or not… all of you are not kids, blaming each other for starting it… i mean grow up!

i maybe a idealistic, but come on, both countries should make concessions its not a matter who made the biggest but the main thing is to have peace for their children and that means not forgetting that they are and we are all human beings with equal fundamental rights, and if they or the other people that justified what happen or urged people to retaliate, then i dont see an end to all the fighting and killing, whether your jew, moslem, christian, protestant, black, white, asian, american, arab, chinese, israeli, palestinian, who cares in the end your still a human being!